what is the production effects in between the buttons by french 79 ? Has anyone made a synth patch of their exact setup ? can you find it on the web ?
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French 79 Synth Setup
I’ll check for track-specific production notes, interviews, gear rundowns, and any shared patches/remakes. Then I’ll separate “confirmed” from “likely reconstruction.”
I found no confirmed “exact setup” patch for Between the Buttons. But there are a few useful traces:
Confirmed / semi-confirmed:
- French 79 is Simon Henner; Between the Buttons first appears on the 2014 Angel EP and later opens Olympic. citeturn270328search9turn270328search3
- In an interview, he says his core sound sources are Moog Model D, Roland Juno-60, and Prophet V, and that he makes “90%” of his sounds with those. citeturn115304view0
- He also specifically mentions using Juno-60 for arpeggio and Space Echo for effects in a later track, which fits the French 79 sound-world even if not specifically Between the Buttons. citeturn115304view0
- Equipboard sightings list Juno-60, Minimoog Model D, Prophet, SH-101, MicroKORG, etc., but it is community-compiled and not track-specific. citeturn115304view1
Fan reconstructions found:
- A YouTube remake exists: “Remaking French 79 - Between the Buttons with FL Studio + Serum (Presets Available!)”. That’s probably the closest thing to an actual downloadable patch/remake I found. citeturn189783search2
- A KVR thread tries to recreate the signature arp, with one user posting a Serum audio example and saying the static pattern can be recreated, but they could not fully solve how to make it dynamically generated with Ableton devices. citeturn189783search4
- There are also French 79 MIDI files, including Between the Buttons, on Nonstop2k, though that helps with notes more than sound design. citeturn189783search5
My read of the effect: it’s mostly not one magic patch. It’s a fairly simple analog-style arpeggiated synth made huge by arrangement + FX:
- Arp/sequencer: 16th-note arpeggio, probably manually programmed or hardware-sequenced rather than a plain “up/down” arp.
- Synth tone: Juno/Prophet/MicroKORG-ish saw/pulse patch, low-pass filtered, modest resonance, envelope opening the filter per note.
- Motion: slow cutoff automation + maybe filter envelope amount changes.
- Stereo width: chorus/ensemble, very likely Juno-style chorus or equivalent.
- Delay: synced dotted/8th-style delay, probably filtered, doing a lot of the “sparkly repeats between notes.”
- Reverb: big plate/hall but not too wet on the dry arp; more washed on pads.
- Sidechain/pump: kick-driven compression or volume shaping giving the track that French electro breathing feel.
- Master/texture: mild saturation, compression, and possibly flanger/phaser-style movement; he explicitly says he experiments with effects that modify the whole title, even “flangers on the master.” citeturn115304view0
A decent Ableton version:
Serum / Wavetable:
Osc A: saw
Osc B: saw or pulse, -12 dB, slight detune
Filter: LP24, cutoff ~1.5–3 kHz, resonance 10–20%
Amp env: fast attack, short decay, sustain 40–60%, release short
Filter env: fast attack, decay 150–300 ms, sustain low
MIDI:
95 BPM
16th arp / programmed pattern
Use chord tones + octave jumps, not just basic up/down
FX chain:
Chorus-Ensemble
Saturator, soft clip
EQ: cut lows under 150–200 Hz
Delay: synced 1/8 or dotted 1/8, feedback 20–35%, filtered
Reverb: plate/hall, 10–25% wet
Sidechain compressor from kick
Optional phaser/flanger very subtle
Closest public trail: NMI MUSIC’s FL Studio + Serum remake plus the KVR MicroKORG/Serum arp thread. I would not trust anyone claiming “the exact French 79 patch” unless they show the original project file or a direct statement from Henner.
is it possible to get the sound of a moog model d with vital synth ? just with the right parameters ?
Yes, close enough for a track, not exact in isolation.
A Moog Model D sound is mostly:
- Three analog oscillators
- Slight detune / pitch drift
- 24 dB ladder low-pass filter
- Filter drive / saturation
- Snappy but not ultra-clicky envelopes
- Mono / legato behavior
- Subtle instability
Vital can do most of this, but its default oscillators/filter are cleaner and more “digital precise,” so you need to dirty it up.
Basic Model D-ish Vital patch
Oscillators
Osc 1: Saw, level 100%, pitch 0
Osc 2: Saw, level 70–90%, pitch 0, fine +3 to +8 cents
Osc 3: Saw or triangle, level 40–70%, pitch -12 semitones or 0, fine -3 to -8 cents
Unison: 1 voice per oscillator
Phase randomization: on / varied
For bass: make Osc 3 triangle/sine-ish at -12.
For lead: all three saws at same octave or one +12.
Filter
Filter type: Analog 24 dB / Ladder-ish if available
Cutoff: 200 Hz–4 kHz depending sound
Resonance: 5–25%
Drive: 15–40%
Key tracking: 30–60%
Vital’s filter is the weak point vs a real Moog. Add drive before/after filter.
Envelopes
Amp Env:
Attack: 0–5 ms
Decay: 150–400 ms
Sustain: 50–90%
Release: 80–250 ms
Filter Env:
Attack: 0–10 ms
Decay: 150–500 ms
Sustain: 0–40%
Release: 100–250 ms
Mod amount: +20 to +60
Voice
Mono: on
Legato: on for leads, off/on for bass depending part
Glide: 40–120 ms
Velocity to filter cutoff: small amount
Analog drift Use random/LFO modulation subtly:
Random 1 -> Osc 1 fine pitch: ±2 cents
Random 1 -> Osc 2 fine pitch: ±2 cents
Random 2 -> Filter cutoff: tiny amount
LFO slow random -> pitch/cutoff: very tiny
Keep it subtle. Too much sounds like tape warble or Boards of Canada, not Moog.
FX
Distortion: soft clip / tube, low drive
Compressor: light
EQ: low-mid warmth, tame harsh 2–5 kHz
Chorus: usually off for pure Moog, slight for French 79-ish width
Delay/Reverb: track-dependent
The important trick
A real Model D gets big because the oscillators hit the ladder filter and saturate it. In Vital, simulate that with:
Osc levels high → filter drive up → soft clip/tube distortion after filter
But do not just crank everything. The sweet spot is “thickening,” not obvious fuzz.
For French 79 / Between the Buttons-ish
I’d use Vital more like this:
Osc 1: saw
Osc 2: saw, +7 cents
Osc 3: pulse or saw, -12 semitones, low level
Filter: 24 dB low-pass
Cutoff: medium-bright
Resonance: low
Drive: medium
Amp: short attack, medium decay, medium sustain
Filter env: plucky, decay around 200–350 ms
FX:
Saturation
Chorus/ensemble
Ping-pong or stereo delay
Plate/hall reverb
Sidechain to kick
That will get you the musical effect much more than obsessing over exact Model D behavior.
Best practical answer
Vital can get you 80–90% of the vibe. For a mix, especially with delay, chorus, reverb, saturation, and sidechain, almost nobody will care. For naked filter-sweeps, bass drones, or classic Moog leads, a dedicated Minimoog emulation like Arturia Mini V, Softube Model 72, UAD Minimoog, or The Legend will feel more convincing.
same with the juno ?
Yes, but Juno is harder to fake than Moog in one specific way: the chorus is a huge part of the sound.
A Juno patch is usually simple:
1 DCO saw/pulse/sub oscillator
24 dB low-pass filter
snappy-ish envelopes
mono or poly
big noisy stereo chorus
Vital can do the oscillator/filter/envelope part easily. The Juno “magic” is mostly the DCO stability + sub oscillator + chorus.
Basic Juno-ish Vital patch
Osc 1: Saw
Osc 2: Square or pulse, level 20–60%
Osc 3: Sine/triangle or basic shape, -12 semitones, level 20–50%
Unison: 1 voice
Detune: very little
Unlike a Moog patch, don’t make the oscillators wildly detuned. Juno DCOs are stable.
Filter
Filter: Analog 24 dB low-pass
Cutoff: taste
Resonance: 5–30%
Drive: low to medium
Key tracking: 30–70%
For Juno pads, keep resonance low and cutoff somewhat mellow. For plucks/arps, use more filter envelope.
Envelopes
Pad:
Amp attack: 200 ms–1.5 s
Decay: medium
Sustain: high
Release: 500 ms–2 s
Filter attack: 200 ms–1 s
Decay: 1–3 s
Sustain: medium
Release: 500 ms–2 s
Arp / pluck:
Amp attack: 0–10 ms
Decay: 150–500 ms
Sustain: 40–80%
Release: 80–250 ms
Filter env amount: +20 to +50
Filter decay: 150–500 ms
The chorus is the real thing
Vital’s built-in chorus can get close, but for a stronger Juno vibe, use an external chorus plugin after Vital.
Inside Vital:
Chorus:
Mix: 30–60%
Rate: slow
Depth: medium-high
Delay: short
Feedback: low
Then optionally add:
EQ: roll off harsh highs above 8–12 kHz
Saturation: very light
Reverb: plate/hall
Delay: synced if arp
For “Juno-60 French 79 arp” vibe
Osc 1: Saw, level 100%
Osc 2: Pulse, level 30–50%
Osc 3: Sub -12, level 20–35%
Filter:
24 dB LP
Cutoff medium-bright
Resonance low
Drive low-medium
Envelope:
Fast attack
Decay 200–400 ms
Sustain 40–70%
Release 100–250 ms
FX:
Chorus, medium-high mix
Filtered delay
Plate/hall reverb
Sidechain/pumping compression
The difference from Moog
Moog-ish: thick, unstable, overdriven, mono, filter is the star.
Juno-ish: clean/stable, bright-but-soft, poly/arp-friendly, chorus is the star.
Vital can get very close in a mix, especially for pads/arps. For the naked “that’s a Juno” sound, use a Juno chorus/plugin: TAL-Chorus-LX is the classic free cheat code.